Comments on: About Russian atrocities in WWII

By: GreekAdonis1234

GreekAdonis1234 — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 06:21:44 +0000

I’m sorry Friedrich but what goes around comes around buddy. You conveniently forget that you Germans committed far worse atrocities than the Russians. What about the death camps of the Nazis killing millions of people in the most inhumane ways, at least the Russians were quick. You people are the real ones that destroyed Europe, and boy did the Russians fix you people up when they got to Germany to avenge the unimaginable things you did to them. And to Brad, don’t get mad little Nazi just because Russians are better soldiers.

By: GOULD

GOULD — Mon, 07 Mar 2011 22:13:40 +0000

70% of civilian women in Berlin were raped by “the average Russian soldiers!. Both countries were brutal but nothing can ever beat the total horror commited by the Russians. That would be against their own as well. Russian soldiers who were captured by Nazi forces were not spared by their own. They were killed or sent them to reeducation camps. All dictators are about one thing…THEMSELVES! To stay in power you have to have retarded brainwashed peoples like Koznetzov.

By: jon barrow

jon barrow — Thu, 30 Dec 2010 13:51:10 +0000

Mr Kuznetsov

I'm sorry to say this, but I think you are somewhat deluded.

Of course much German Nazi behaviour in WW2 was abhorrent. However, Germany and to a lesser extent its allies have been wracked by war guilt ever since, and both the German state and most Germans make no attempt to excuse WW2 history, which in fact modern Germans can't be held accountable for.

Likewise, modern Russians can't be held accountable for Stalin-era atrocities, but nevertheless the modern Russian state refuses to declassify documents relating to possible genocide in Ukraine and against the Tartars; Soviet war crimes against Poles, Russians, Germans, Hungarians and others; agressive wars against Finns, Baltic people, etc. And many ex-Soviet people appear to maintain a Soviet-style mentality of simply refuting well-grounded evidence or engaging in evasive semantics.

If Russia really wants to be taken seriously as a state which can share in our common European heritage of the enlightenment, liberalism and logic I believe it needs to at least face up to well-documented historical facts.

By: shura

shura — Tue, 09 Nov 2010 16:25:57 +0000

Peter, you’re right. We should not forget about 1.7 million German POWs who died in concentration camps in Western zone of occupation. Just during cold war Soviet troops’ crimes were exagerrated and American ones were censored due to cold war propaganda reasons. http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v10/v10p161_Brech.html Adam, of course Poland suffered from Russia after WWII. But don’t forget what Poles themselves did to German population in territories Poland gained, as well as the size of those territories. So, I’d say all sides had their own record of crimes. The difference was the scale and barbarity of them, as well as the fact that in the West people are brainwashed in one direction, in USSR they were in opposite direction. After collapse of USSR Russia publicly acknowledged big part if not all black pages of its history, but the West is still to do it. It’s hard to do it under cold war stereotypes which still dominate Western public opinion, but it is still necessary.

By: shura

shura — Tue, 09 Nov 2010 15:40:05 +0000

To Friedrich’s comment posted on 01.12.08 Of course all sides in all conflicts commit war crimes. The difference is in scale and barbarity, as well if it’s an official policy or a separate actions of individuals. For example, you know Yuri Gagarin of course, the first man in space. His older brother was hanged by a German soldier just for fun. He survived – his mother managed to take him out of the loop when he was still alive – while a German soldier was out bringing his camera to make a photo. This is no doubt an atrocity. And what you refer to is a crime to some extent – POWs were killed having no weapons, but it happened after capitulation of Germany and THEY fired at Russians first. And it was SS soldiers, not HitlerJugend children, you’ just have to dignity to use a blatant lie. Your hate makes you lie. Here is what you refer to. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4guAZMuwGU

By: Jordan

Jordan — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 10:06:04 +0000

Oh yes and when the Tzar and his family were butchered in cold blood, I guess thats just another example of the wonderful Russian nature hmmmm. Hypocrite – the worst kind of one eyed patriotic mad man.

By: Jordan

Jordan — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 09:58:36 +0000

Wow Michael, reading your one eyed account of Russias history makes me realise why your people are so often ruled by dictators. The Russians, contrary to your website and comments, brutalised the german civilian population after “liberation” How you can dispute historical facts and make Russians out to be this brave indomitable wonder child is beyond me. The only reason Russia was ab le to beat the germans is that they poured more machines and bodies into the conflict than could the germans. You state on your website that the Germans vastly out numbered the Russians – please!! Where do you dig up this drivel. By the way my grandmother was in Berlin when you brave russians arrived – Russians are no better than any other nation in war – all disgusting – accept that cuz you know its true.

By: Jeff

Jeff — Thu, 24 Jun 2010 00:19:08 +0000

A lot of bs is being posted here. Katyn massacre was commited by the soviets, victims were executed by a bullet to the neck, trademark of NKVD. However, this massacre was nothing compared to what the germans did in occupied countries, which was not only morally wrong but also had a major impact on the campaign in the east. The populations of Ukraine, and other soviet territories hated and despised the russians. If Germany presented itself as a savior instead of master, things would have gone alot smoother. That being said the nonsense of russians being better soldiers is almost as funny as the use of the pictures at the top of this page, or the comment of Stalin being a God send. The german Whermacht and Waffen-SS proved time and time again even when the war was completely lost that they were the best soldiers of their time. Russia defeated Germany with a mix of luck (the winter of ’41), the fact they commited to total war long before germany, and they had what seemed a limitless amount of reserves. How does Stalin put out a fire? he throws bodies on it. Also,Russia produced tanks that were much superior to the german panzers until the development of the Tigers and Panthers which came toolate and in not enough numbers. Hitler as a tactician made several key blunders as head of the armed forces, and should have had more faith in his generals. That being said the russians showed a resiliance matched by none, and in my opinion don’t get the credit they deserve in defeating germany. I believe it was something like 85% of the german armed forces destroyed on Russian soil. I am an American of german heritage, and it irritates me how my country acts like we went in and saved europe, when all we really did was keep France from falling into communist hands, and ensured a communist dominated europe for that era in history. I must say thank god the germans did go in and do what they did for if they hadn’t weakened Russia inflicting around 20 million deaths, Stalin may have ended up conquering europe for they were gearing up for war they didnt think would be fought til ’42, which was a main reason Hitler struck when he did he wanted to wipe them out before they gained that sort of strength and let us not be mistaken the communist agenda was about conquering europe. Bottom line both countries commited heinous acts of barbarism, but the reds were less disciplined and often drunk, raping everything in sight as they moved west. The german soldier was much more disciplined and when it came to war crimes it was more ideological. Both are in the wrong, but what eats at me is propaganda like the stupid photos above, if they wanted it more fair they should have pics of the young girls literally raped to death by soldiers of the Red Army, or all the pople the soviets strung up, instead you show pics of germans getting food? Fuck that bullshit, the germans also were capable of such acts of kindness. Russia was no saint, they even brutalised soviet POW’s released from captivity on Stalin’s orders. Those are the facts for you fools.

By: Andrew Joiner

Andrew Joiner — Thu, 25 Mar 2010 06:15:25 +0000

Michael,

I really enjoyed both of your websites! I actually visited Moscow last summer, and one of my favorite parts of the visit was seeing the statue of Zhukov on horseback, standing on the banners of the Nazis.

As to the campaign in the East, I have to disagree with your characterization of all German soldiers as murderers. Many were just unfortunate enough to have to serve in the Wermacht, and to have been part of this ill advised invasion of your Motherland.

As to the great leader, Josef Stalin, there is much to be admired. He was faced with modernizing a state with almost no infrastructure, and was forced to make tough decisions as to how this was to be done. Had he not been the leader of the Soviet Union, I think the Soviets would have never been able to ramp up wartime production and produce the high volume of war materials necessary to turn the tide against the Nazis and ultimately defeat them utterly. I think he was a man with good intentions, but he was directly responsible for the deaths of millions, many of who were innocents. I don't think it's fair to his memory to judge him today outside of the context of the time he led the Soviet Union.

Keep up the good work!

Andy Joiner Atlanta, Georiga

By: Embryo

Embryo — Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:20:15 +0000

You have a nerve to say that Germans did Katyn. That’s a lie in a broad daylights and you know it. It makes me sick that this communist brainwashing is still in force. There are no clean people in the war and everybody commits atrocities. That’s the face of an armed conflict. But to say that Russians are better than Germans? They were killing Poles in Auschwitz long after the war – the camp was running (not the crematoriums or gas chambers of course) till around early 1950′s. Hitler sacrificed his German folks but Stalin merely executed them. Basically that makes him better. Good joke.